Welcome back to the Real Estate Investment Profit Masters Podcast! It’s been awhile, but I’m excited about this. We’re trying out a new format with today’s episode. I’ve gotten a lot of questions about coaching lately, and that’s something I want to answer on this podcast.
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Today, I’m sharing an interview with my coaching student Jim Zaspel. We’ve been working together for twelve sessions and his insights and experience working with me will really show off how important coaching can be in the real estate investment business.
4:09 – Meet Jim Zaspel!
5:15 – Jim breaks down why he went looking for a coach
6:30 – How many contracts does Jim have going on right now?
8:30 – Which real estate investment strategy works out best for Jim?
11:19 – Jim used coaching to become even more successful
15:35 – Jim’s favorite parts of working together
17:54 – Coaching is healthy for your professional life
22:41 – The three tests Cory uses for coaching – do they work?
24:32 – The books Jim read during coaching
26:34 – What kind of success does Jim expect from this coaching experience?
27:46 – The one thing Jim thinks is super valuable
28:20 – Jim’s parting thoughts on coaching
Links and Resources:
The Four Disciplines of Execution by Franklin Covey
Cory: What is going on, my party people? It has been a little while since we have done a podcast episode and so I’m excited about sharing something a little bit different on this one that is going to hopefully encourage you and inspire you. I appreciate you, again, for joining our Real Estate Investing Profit Masters podcast series. My name is Cory Boatright. I am the CEO of Real Estate Investing Profits, and what we’re going to talk about today is, again, a little bit different than what our normal format is for the podcast.I think you’re going to dig it, and what we’re going to talk about is a little bit on the coaching side of wholesaling, and that’s one thing that I have done for many, many years. I get constant questions about this on Facebook, on Instagram, on our big email list that we have and really just from other investors when I’m traveling, is about why coaching is important or, if it is–some people have never done coaching before; they want to know if it’s important–what kind of results can come from it. Is it kind of ethereal or can you actually get these hardline results and is it worth it? Quite frankly, is the value there? What is the investment that you put in and what are you going to get back out of it?
I am going to share one of these conversations I have with my student, Jim Zaspel. He is a fantastic human being and he is going to share some of his results on working together. We’ve worked together now for about 12 sessions and I think you’re going to get a lot from it. Before we get into it, I want to ask you a question: Are you ready? Have you downloaded your Ultimate Real Estate Investing Quick Start Guide? Have you? If you haven’t, why don’t you auto-magically go do it by simply texting the word “profit” to 38470, and you will get a link to that e-book?
We’ve had thousands and thousands–actually, tens of thousands of people download it, and it’s a very quick read but it also gives you some tangible things and practical things to do in your real estate investing business. Of course, if you’re interested in working together in the coaching capacity, I’d love to have that conversation with you. If you go to Cory’s Coaching, simply watch the little two-minute video. It really is two minutes. It asks you one question on there.
It says, “Where are you in your experience? Have you ever done any wholesale deals, have you done a few or are you just rocking them out?” From there, we can have a deeper conversation on what you need. I believe that you get out of something what you put into it so there’s going to be some questions that go further into that for your benefit. All right, so I’m excited. I hope you are, too, here in this interview with Mister Jim Zaspel from the City of Brotherly Love, Philadelphia. I’ll talk to you guys soon. Remember be absorbent and I hope you enjoy this interview. Bye now.
Hey, Jim. What’s going on?
Jim: Yo, Cory. What’s up, dog?
Cory: I’m doing well. It’s actually raining here in Oklahoma City today.
Jim: It’s raining in Philadelphia, too.
Cory: It’s raining in Philadelphia?
Jim: Join the crowd.
Cory: Yeah, right. I appreciate you being on here. I’m excited about doing this interview. We talked about this for a little bit, and you and I have been working together for 12 sessions and coach together. Just candidly, I would like to be able to just find how your experience has been from your perspective on working together. I know that we had a specific agenda and goal in place before we started working together and so I’d like to speak to that and where we are today with that process and just kind of go from there. I appreciate, again, you taking the time.
Jim: Glad to, man.
Cory: There are lot of things going on, but I think it’s important to share some of these results and, one, just encourage other people of what’s possible.
Jim: Absolutely. Just generally, I’ve been super happy with the result. Whenever you hire a coach or you’re thinking of hiring coaching, it’s like, “Is he really going to be there for me? Is he really going to answer my questions? Am I going to mainly get enough resources to make?” and those are–I knew you before so I wasn’t too worried about that, but I will definitely say you were more responsive to me as my mentor than I was to you as the student. Now, my goal is simple. I want to be wholesaling five houses a month.
We sell about four to five rehabs every month but I want to ramp up my wholesaling business and so I forget what was the first month or two. When we worked together, it did yield – do a few right out of the gate thanks to what I learned, but now we’ve had a little more time to have some of these things implemented to more effect. This month that we’re in right now, we are closing seven deals.
Cory: That’s awesome.
Jim: That means we’ve got a buyer and a contract, a seller and a contract and we’re closing the schedules and some have already happened. These are legit deals, not just contractor sellers for too much, seven legit deals.
Cory: Not only that, you told me. I’m super excited about that. That’s awesome. Congratulations on that, but you also have another 10 or 11 contracts that are still waiting for buyers right now.
Cory: You’ve got agreements with owners that want to sell.
Jim: Correct. It’s sometimes a challenge. It’s different acquisitions, different strengths, and the acquisitions–one of my main acquisitions guys was having a real hard time getting the contractor sellers. I told you about it and I was just complaining more than anything else. You told me you heard me saying some things that told you I didn’t even know I was saying or meaningful. We just spent the majority, at least half of that phone call, on how I can better coach my acquisitions person, the guy right now meeting with sellers and getting contracts.
He had been getting zero to one, sometimes two contractors per week. Typically, it’s zero to one, like an average of three quarters of contract per week. It’s not that good on 10,000 mailers a week, right? The next week, he had nine seller meetings and closed eight deals, and they were all good deals. That was the next week after that conversation and he has been consistently two to five contracts ever single week since then.
Cory: It’s just incredible. The results have been amazing and it’s been a lot to do with, really, you implementing some of these things that we went over. One thing I think is interesting whenever working with someone is some of the things that we go over may be some things that they have heard of before or maybe they’ve done or put their toe in the water and do some of the things for strategies for mailers, or for calls, or however they’re getting their leads, but what is it that can specifically working together has been a strategy that continually has been something that has shown positive results for you?
Jim: Sure. There are a couple of things that I was reminded of that I did in the past and gotten away from and then some other things that we added that made a big difference. Direct mail is a big part of our business so some things I’ve been reminded of was simple stuff. When we’re selling the wholesale deals, we talked about how to offer a faster closing for the seller. If we’re able to close a week early, if I want a buyer lined up, which they’d be able to for a $500.00-discount is to get their money sooner.
If not, we’re still able to pay a full price. We’re not trying to renegotiate. That’s [00:09:23 to money] but then also – it’s a simple question. When it comes to finding buyers, especially the rental neighborhoods, you’re going to Go Section 8 and finding landlords, people who have rentals and say, “Hey, do you want another rental?” Typically, they either say yes or no, and I discover there’s very few landlords who have the appropriate number of rentals. They either want more or they want to sell some.
We’ve actually gotten some leads. I haven’t gotten a contract yet but I’ve got some good leads from landlords that were nurturing that we actually got by the process of selling. On the process of buying, getting deals with sellers, some specific things were some things we talked about on how we’re targeting this niche list and various neighborhoods, how to do that. I’ve done zip codes and different lists before and mailed the whole neighborhoods, but being smart with the number of mails, not just throwing mud against the wall and hoping for some to stick, that was helpful. We talked about some of these very specific strategies and then actually gave me a postcard that has done pretty well. It’s now part of the mix that we do as well that, honestly, I didn’t know existed. It’s super cool there.
Cory: That’s great. What about someone–because when people are watching this right now, they’ve heard of coaching before and I can say it all day long that I think there’s a benefit to it and you’ll get better results from it, but I think it’s interesting on your side, too, because not only are you a real estate investor but you actually have a coaching side of your business as well with working with folks in Philadelphia, a lot of folks in Philadelphia, which is where your big market is. What is it that maybe you could speak to from someone that is watching right now that is still on the fence of whether or not that working together with a coach even from a coach’s perspective is really worth it for them to invest that time, invest, obviously, their resources, their money, to put that time in and to get the result?
Jim: Sure. Honestly, I’ve wholesale prior to this year between 100 and 150 houses. I’ve done deals. I’ve rehabbed a couple of hundred, 250 houses or so. I kind of know what I’m doing but I felt like I was up against some glass walls. I kind of needed the insight of somebody who was currently, not used to doing more deals than I was in the wholesaling kind, and I knew you actually had asked around at a mastermind. I said, “Well, what the heck? Why don’t I try it? Cory!” and it was like, “Oh, yeah. Good idea,” so I did.
For me–and maybe I’m just too simplistic, but if somebody’s got something I want or they’ve achieved something I want to achieve or they’re doing something I want to do–there’s two different types of people on the world: the people who sit back and stay where they’re at and make excuses for themselves and say, “Well, he’s doing that because he’s always done it,” or, “Because he’s rich,” or, “Because he’s black,” or, “Because he’s white,” or whatever it is; or, the other kind of person is, “Well, hey, that’s really awesome. Good for them. I want that, whatever it is, in my life as well. Let me ask him how he did it,” or, in this case, ask him a lot on how he did it and give a lot of detailed information.
That’s the approach I’ve always taken. I’ve been to dozens of seminars and hire a lot of coaches. It’s really simple. It’s like, “You’ve got what I’ve got and I knew you did. I knew you weren’t one of these internet gurus and that’s all you are, is an internet guru, but you actually do. Real estate’s your primary business.” I said, “Well, instead of just trying to get by with a couple of phone calls and try to see if they’ll answer a few emails, let me get really serious.” In fact, because of the relationship we have in this mastermind we’re a part of, you said, “Dude, you don’t need to pay me.” I said, “Cory, no. I want to get you and I want to be invested myself.”
It’s like a gym membership. What you get out of it is what you put into it. The more you spend, sometimes the more you get back out of it. I think it was reasonable but, anyway, it’s a no-brainer. If the coach you’re looking to hire–which, in this case, Cory–has what you want to have, once you know they actually have it, why the heck wouldn’t you hire the person? I don’t know. Maybe I’m too simplistic but that’s always been my mindset.
Cory: It’s interesting you bring that up because one of the benefits, obviously, of being in a mastermind is that you build these great relationships. One of my best friends, obviously, in the world, Jason Medley, the mastermind we’re talking about, his collective genius made a lot of people in there. Often times, you’ll just work together. Obviously, there’s that relationship between a friend and paying me for something, there’s always that kind of weirdness. I actually told Jim he didn’t have to.
I’d help him out on some things but he also knew that he was going to get my leftover time. He wasn’t going to get my focused time on business, and specifics, and things like that so I do appreciate you bringing that up because I also believe that because they say those who pay, pay attention and I’m that way. If I don’t invest in something–and, usually, that means not just time but money, if I don’t put the money into it, I usually won’t take it as serious. That’s a good point that you bring up. What about–on the last past here is what other aspects of working together did you have the best kind of results from that you don’t think you could have gotten necessarily just by yourself?
Jim: One of the things that always haunts me–and I think this is what drivers entrepreneurs–is, “What am I missing? What am I not doing right?” The reality is the wholesaling part of my business has been struggling. Yes, doing some deals here and there certainly for two years, in large part because fix-and-flip had become my primary business for five years. I was trying to do wholesale here and there. Fix-and-flips is great but I wanted to do more wholesaling.
Honestly, my wife was like, “Well, you need to do more wholesaling because you get paid super-quick on them, it’s so awesome.” Last Monday, we locked up a deal and we have a buyer at a $85,000.00 profit on Friday. A five-day sale cycle, that’s a pretty quick sale cycle. Really, when I hired you, I didn’t know what I was going to learn. I guess if I knew, I wouldn’t had to hire you. I didn’t know what I was going to learn and I would say there’s been a lot of significant things, like how to get this list and these new postcards, but there’s also been–I think the more effective stuff has been a lot of minor tweaks.
A minor tweak at 10,000 or 15,000 mail pieces a week make a huge difference at a decent volume, but a lot of–if it’s 3, 5 or 10 minor tweaks every week for 12 weeks, now we’ve made a lot of minor tweaks to make for a major change. I don’t know if I answered your question or not but I was trying to do it myself already. I was like, “You know what? It’s hard to keep my head against the wall. Let me find out what’s really working on a high volume.”
Cory: Is it okay to talk about this real quickly, Jim, because I think it’s almost a bigger value that people don’t consider. I put a post out on Facebook about three months ago and I said, “Do you think that it’s valuable to have a personal trainer for your physical life that also affects your business? Because you’re healthier in your physical life, are you more healthy? Do you see bigger benefits? Do you see better things happening in your business?” I posted that and the response was overwhelmingly yes. Would you mind speaking to that, too? I know when we started, too, some things that you shared that you weren’t in the place where you wanted to be on some of the physical stuff, and what are some things that has happened with that as well? I don’t want to just focus on just the business aspect of the benefits of working together if you’re okay with it.
Jim: Absolutely. It’s funny. I actually was of a mindset that I don’t want a life coach. I don’t know if you’d quantify yourself as a life coach or not, but it was all about wholesale, and wholesale, and wholesale. That was the only one. Give me the nuts and bolts. Give me the how-to.
Cory: I remember that, yeah.
Jim: I just took it by faith. There were some things you asked me to do which was like, “Eh, cut the foo-foo. Just give me the nuts and bolts.” I said, “Well, crap, I paid you this much money. I’m going to listen to you.” In fact, I said this to you a couple of times. I didn’t send you this much money just to argue with everything you said so I’m going to try it. One of them was like, “Crap, I want to lose 45 pounds,” and I’ve lost a third of that so far, which is good. It would probably be better if I ate and drank less but what you talked about was the value of some of these habits. One of them was getting a trainer.
It was like, on the first phone call, you were like, “Are you member of a gym?” I was like, “Yeah, I’ve got this awesome gym, a three-minute drive from my house.” It might be three and a half minutes. You were like, “Great, so hire a trainer for three days a week,” and I’m like, “What, man?” I wasn’t ready for that. I was like, “Alright, fine.” I did and I will tell you, within two weeks, everybody around me saw a difference in the energy level, and that energy level, I think, just plays out every area of life with regards to family, the kids, the wife but especially work.
Like I said, I’m meeting my head against the wall and a couple of different things and the energy with which I was attacking different things and taking care of different things and working with co-workers instead of going for a mindset of, “What am I going to get done today?” It’s like, “Man, how much can I accomplish today?” which is back to normal, but I described the bad habit of not exercising. I don’t need to pay Cory to tell me to exercise. If you’re not exercising, maybe you do.
I will tell you there was that. There was some scripture reading through the Bible and different habits on a personal level and personal productivity. I told you I feel like drowning. You have a lot of resources. I was writing an email. We were just talking earlier today on a simple resource you gave me. Gosh, it completely revolutionized my email life in a good way. I got more than I was looking for and I’m glad for it. T.R. Becker says, “How you do anything is how you do everything.” If I’m lazy and not disciplined in a fitness area of my life, then it’s definitely going to come across other areas, and it was.
I will say that I’m a pretty hard-headed individual. I feel like a hard-driver, Type-A personality and you’ve got me to do a lot of things but not once have I felt manipulated or pressured, and you kind of let me come to my own conclusions and you helped guide the decision-making, obviously. I remember it was–here’s how you did the fitness conversation because it was on your mind map, which I love, by the way, health and fitness. “Jim, you asked me a question here. You want to put it out there. How are you feeling about this category?” Really gentle. I was like, “Well, I could definitely–””Okay, now have you been in better shape before?” and, “Yeah,” and, “How did that make you feel? How did you feel then compared to now? What do you think you should do about it?” I was like, “Come on. Fine, I’ll go to the gym, Cory,” and I did. I’m glad you did it, but you’ve always been super-tactful, is my point.
Cory: Tact is important whenever you’re working with anyone. That’s interesting, too. Remember, when we started working together, the three tests–a different test, personality test, that we went over, one being the Kolbe. This is another one you shared with me, too. Did you think that was valuable immediately off the standpoint–from the beginning when we worked together to have that to be able to understand how best to communicate and how best you’re going to take action?
Jim: Yeah. It shows me that you put a whole lot more thought into it than I intended do. To me, it’s like, “It doesn’t need to be told; I’m just going to tell you,” and that is where your experience comes in. It’s like you’re a little more emotionally intelligent with how you want to convey that. Yeah, I think that was helpful.
Cory: That’s great, yeah. We go through everything on a mind map and, hopefully, that was a great process for you so you know exactly where each step along the way. Did you like that formatting on the mind map?
Jim: I thought it was hugely helpful because, one, if you’re taking notes on the call, you’re never really driving on a road or on a boat; you’re where you are right now and you’re on the phone call. You’re taking notes on everything, and I take notes as well on a notepad, but I take notes and you’re taking down notes. I can reference them later, and there’s a ton of resources pre-listed out there. You’ve gotten mind map references on a weekly basis in which we got my stuff done, but you’ve told me so I assume it’s going to take place. I also have access after the program has ended and so I can go back and I don’t feel like I’m losing anything in terms of these resources. I appreciated the thoughtfulness and how organized you were in those phone calls.
Cory: That’s great, so you have the access to the mind map forever, essentially, that link and all the resources there. There’s a lot of books, actually, that you’ve read. What worked in this? How did help on your thinking, just resetting some of the perspectives from some of the specific books that we’ve read?
Jim: One of them, in particular, was Poor Disciplines of Execution, which–I’ve heard the author speak but it is–I’m not going to–spoiler alert here but it’s a really good back. I started putting up my team of 8 or 10 people and it’s great, helped me get back on the habit of reading more, not just having one book that I’m reading for a month and a half for the time but getting that book. It doesn’t take more than a week to read a book. It shouldn’t. That alone has helped this team figuring out what really was important to us and what can we do predictably that controls or that influences the outcome. It’s been super important.
Cory: Yes, and all the lead measures, and the wag, and from X to Y by Z, basically that format. It’s huge because you have a place where you want to go and how to get there. Often, we have a place where we kind of want to go or, sometimes, we don’t and we’re just kind of like, “I just want to make some money,” or, “I want to do something.” Once you actually have that North Star which you keep walking about, by Z, by this time, by where you want to go to get there, once you have those things in place, all of a sudden, you start having a roadmap and you know how to get the result that you want.
I’ve really enjoyed working with you. I know our last session was actually today and I appreciate you doing this interview. I’ve enjoyed working with you. I enjoyed not only from the work relationship that we have on this capacity from a consultant but just as a friend. I know we’ve talked about a lot of things in that regard as well, on a personal level, and I’m excited about your results. I believe that–let me ask you this: Jim, did you think we have the framework in place right now? Let’s say this time, next year, continuing on with everything that we went over, how much profit do you think that you can create from your wholesaling business specifically by putting the framework in from what we went over together?
Jim: Honestly, this month, we just finished our 12th phone call. I think it’s just over $60,000.00 on wholesale fees.
Cory: That’s profit?
Jim: Yeah, that’s profit. That’s gross profit after commissions. I still have to take marketing out of it, I guess, but that’s profit on the wholesale deals. I don’t see why we can’t consistently be at a six-figure true profit per month before the end of the year for sure. Within a couple of few months, I definitely see it getting there.
Cory: That’s great, so a million-dollar wholesaling business, and I’m excited for you to have that. I’m excited to see the results and maybe we’ll come back in 12 months and do it again.
Jim: There you go. I’ll tell you one thing that’s super-valuable, Cory, is it’s kind of what you just said but it’s not, “Oh, I learned a lot,” or, “Oh, I’m more fit,” and, “Oh, I’m more clear,” but I literally have what I need in order to actually do more than what I set out to accomplish. That was I was looking for.
Cory: That’s powerful. Yeah, I know you said you wanted to do five a month. Now, you’re really on track to do eight to nine a month.
Cory: That’s just awesome, man. Do you have any kind of parting thoughts for someone watching this right now? They’ve thought about coaching. They have certainly no shortage of options of who they should work with. You’ve been there before. You’ve had those thoughts before as well. Any kind of parting thoughts that could speak to that person on why working with a coach is going to get them the results faster?
Jim: Sure. Part of it goes back to what I said before. If somebody’s got what I want, I’m going to learn from them how to get that. There’s an investment. It’s not an insignificant investment, but the cool part about this real estate business is once you know what to do, it’s really not that–you can make the money back pretty dang quickly. One deal we’re closing this month is more than the investment that I paid you, Cory. It’s a no-brainer. If you’re willing to put in the effort–because one thing I never did was say, “Man, I haven’t gotten this–”
After the first phone call, “Cory, I haven’t closed four deals yet. Man, what the heck?” I went into it with the expectation and you reiterated this throughout: I’ve got to work because I always say if you’re not willing to put in any effort, don’t hire Cory. I think you echoed that, right? If you’re at least somewhat committed to doing what it takes, by all means, save yourself–they talk about a learning curve, how can we teach you and learn sooner? I call it the income curve because think about what it costs you.
If it takes you–say you’re a super-smart person if you’re watching this. Let’s say you could learn in two years. You couldn’t, but let’s say you could learn in two years everything you’re going to learn with Cory over the next–however long you’re going to work with him. If you implement what Cory teaches you, there’s no reason you can’t be doing at least 50 grand a month of wholesaling. Let’s say you’re with Cory for three months or six months, 50 grand a month so you’re missing out 18 months of income. How much does that cost you by waiting?
What I like about coaching from a business sense is it shortens the income curve significantly. I’ll just try to vouch for you here. I think one of the biggest questions is, “Can I trust this guy to be there? Can he deliver the goods? Can he do what I need him to do?” Comes to me with a few hundred deals, Cory absolutely delivers the goods. I learned a ton working with him, and he gave me absolute clarity. He knew exactly what I was looking for and I don’t know what the heck else anybody could be looking for.
Cory: That’s awesome, man. Thank you, Jim. I appreciated that. It means the world to me. I’m excited about your results. I’m excited to see you here in, what, September?
Cory: That’s awesome, man.
Jim: It’s always a pleasure, Cory. I appreciate it.
Cory: I appreciate you taking the time, and we’ll look forward to maybe doing another interview in 12 months from now.
Jim: I’d like it, man. I’ll do it.
Cory: That would be call. All right, Jim. Talk to you later.
Jim: All right. See you around, Man.
Cory: Hi, this is Cory Boatright and I have a quick question for you: What is the fastest way to reach your goals? Is it to work harder, work smarter, use system and processes or hire rock star employees? What about just making more money? Actually, it’s none of that. Those things are a byproduct of the one success component that every real estate investor or business owner that I know all have in common, and the answer is clarity, complete laser focus on what you want, why you want it and what are you willing to do to get it.
Where do you find clarity? By hiring a coach and mentor. Now, could you reach the level of success that you want to achieve by doing this all on your own, the lone ranger? Maybe, but do you think it would take you double or even triple the time to achieve it compared to hiring a coach and mentor to help guide your path, provide proven instruction with a tailored blueprint that you could follow for building a real estate business that supports your lifestyle and helps you reach your financial and personal goals? Absolutely.
Here’s the fact: Time isn’t recyclable so I would like to ask you to make good use of it and extend a personal invitation for you to book a phone-coaching strategy session by going to Call with Cory. I’m going to ask you a few quick questions on that page and we’re going to go over and see how we can make sure that your business is on path to reach the goals that you want this year. Go to Call with Cory and book your phone-coaching strategy session today. Remember, be absorbent, and I’ll see you on there.
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